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Post by Dana on Aug 26, 2015 9:06:23 GMT -5
Jeyu # 18670.1(1 of 28) Jun-7 10:29 AM Jeyu Posts:1039
This seems like a good place to save quotes from members, both past and present, who have so generously shared their knowledge of recovery. I think most would agree with the first one that I have posted here.
"You cannot walk Ten Miles into the Forest and expect to walk out in Five."
GrampaDave
Jeyu0422
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Post by Dana on Aug 26, 2015 9:07:28 GMT -5
gwampa69 # 18670.2(2 of 28) Replied to: Jeyu Jun-7 10:40 AM gwampa69 Posts:1898
Jenn/Achilles1957 wrote this to me June 24, 2014. It helped me through the grueling beginning of my quest for sobriety.
"at this stage it's important not to beat up your already beaten body/soul/mind ... leave it be, it will all be there for you to tackle with clarity and strength when your body is healed and free of the toxins that are making you ill and clouding your 'vision'.
Forever thanks Jenn. O and U Brett
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Post by Dana on Aug 26, 2015 9:08:24 GMT -5
Jeyu # 18670.3(3 of 28) Replied to: gwampa69 Jun-7 10:49 AM Jeyu Posts:1039
I have posted this before, but it deserves saving. It has become my vision of recovery, the person that I strive to be. Originally written by Dot in a post to Blue describing "happy and evolved people".
"Honesty with themselves and others comes naturally. Accountability is part of their fabric and they resolve issues as they come up. They don't avoid and procrastinate....fear based reactions. They own their part in all interactions in life and solve problems quickly and efficiently. They are confident and secure. They are inherently responsible with work and family. They are mature. They would never do anything that could hurt the ones they love. They just wouldn't." Dot
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Post by Dana on Aug 26, 2015 9:08:55 GMT -5
Jeyu # 18670.4(4 of 28) Replied to: gwampa69 Jun-7 10:54 AM Jeyu Posts:1039
Mark_LA's first post to me: "Part of the weird set of symptoms of alcoholism is a sort of built-in "forgetter" that makes the memory of recent drunken behavior or painful withdrawals -- no matter how horrible -- disappear like magic." Mark_LA
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Post by Dana on Aug 26, 2015 9:09:43 GMT -5
gwampa69 # 18670.5(5 of 28) Replied to: Jeyu Jun-7 11:13 AM gwampa69 Posts:1898
In the same vein as his last post here, Jeyu of hot, humid and recently flooded Texas said:
"I haven't completely decided yet whether this is a disease or not, but I think Yvan said it best.
"Disease or not? In the end I was sick and tired of being sick and tired, that, I know. " And in the same post, summed up what is probably, for me, the greatest threat to my recovery. " When things get better, I forget how bad it was. I hope I will never forget that I can forget." And, long ago, (long ago for me in this process), MarkLA introduced me to the term "built in forgetter" associated with alcoholism. In the end, it probably doesn't matter the label I choose. Whatever helps ME succeed in MY recovery process is the correct label for ME. In the end, it's all about ME; ME taking personal responsibility to do anything and everything that I need to do to allow ME to attain and maintain sobriety."
This was July 4, 2014. You hit me with some very important concepts as provided by yourself, Yvan, and Mark LA. Thanks fellas. O and U Brett
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Post by Dana on Aug 26, 2015 9:10:03 GMT -5
Bethanne7 # 18670.7(7 of 28) Replied to: Jeyu Jun-7 11:47 AM Bethanne7 Posts:3150
Here is one that I received from our long lost, beloved friend, Terri :
It was 8/28/12
What you see is evidence of what you believe. Believe it and you'll see it.
Dr. Wayne Dyer
Beth "Give me silver, blue and gold. The color of the sky , I'm told "~~~~Bad Company
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Post by Dana on Aug 26, 2015 9:10:40 GMT -5
Jeyu # 18670.8(8 of 28) Replied to: Jeyu Jun-7 1:39 PM Jeyu Posts:1039 "Recovery is rewarding because you get the chance to change your life. Most people sleepwalk through life. They don't think about who they are or what they want to be, and then one day they wake up and wonder why they aren't happy." Makomago in a reply to angelina1512 Jeyu0422
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Post by Dana on Aug 26, 2015 9:11:00 GMT -5
Jeyu # 18670.9(9 of 28) Replied to: 18670.8 Jun-7 7:50 PM Jeyu Posts:1039 "Seems to me like when people embrace the certain knowledge that they don't have another recovery in them, that it's literally do or die, their chances of success go up dramatically. It's part of the whole "surrender" thing." Mark_LA to Jeyu Jeyu0422
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Post by Dana on Aug 26, 2015 9:11:20 GMT -5
gwampa69 # 18670.10(10 of 28) Replied to: Jeyu Jun-8 8:21 AM gwampa69 Posts:1898
Last July 4, PJ hit me with this comment. We were discussing life without alcohol. The fact that it really is better, but in the early days of quitting it was something difficult to believe and understand..
"You undoubtedly won't understand that yet, and you shouldn't expect yourself to. It's too soon. But you will. Please be patient with yourself, hold onto the reasons why you wanted/needed to quit drinking, and take this new phase of your life one small step at a time."
PJ was right. I didn't get it then, but I do now. O and U Brett
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Post by Dana on Aug 26, 2015 9:11:49 GMT -5
Igotaclue # 18670.11(11 of 28) Replied to: Jeyu Jun-8 2:44 PM Igotaclue Posts:2840
Icon spoke to you about the purpose of alcoholism. When I read this it hit me hard.
I guess I'm a bit of a late bloomer. I quit at 59 and am now 60, so comparatively speaking, you have a big head start on me. Actually, that's not entirely accurate. I quit several times a year from my late thirties to the age of 59. Sometimes for a day or a week, and once, about 10 years ago, for a full month. When I quit for my final time over a year ago, I fit the role of "at least I'm not drinking" perfectly, abstinent but not sober, and certainly not happy. It was not until I began to really dig into the reasons for my addiction to alcohol that I started down the path of sobriety. There was a poster here known as Icon who was fond of saying "I believe that alcoholism is a delivery system into spiritual reality which is the only reality. Therefore, alcoholism is the cure for that of which is purported to be the disease. Alcoholism has a purpose and the purpose is recovery." If life knocks you down you get back up and say, is that all you have Bitch!
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Post by Dana on Aug 26, 2015 9:15:45 GMT -5
Jeyu # 18670.12(12 of 28) Replied to: 18670.11 Jun-10 5:21 AM Jeyu Posts:1039 "Humbleness is a state of mind with no ego, no arrogance, no fight, and without pre-conditions." Sam, on or around August, 2014 Jeyu0422
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Post by Dana on Aug 26, 2015 9:16:39 GMT -5
Jeyu # 18670.13(13 of 28) Replied to: 18670.12 Jun-10 5:27 AM Jeyu Posts:1039 "You're going to get cravings -- it's a fact. You can't always explain them away with HALT because your body wants ALCOHOL. So you need to arm yourself with mental pictures of your reality. Do you really want that drink? Where will it lead? No seriously, where will it lead? All those nightmare times when you were roaring drunk, what did you do? How did you feel? That's your reality ... and do you want to go back there? You're in control here........ Alcohol is only a beverage and it has no power over you ... unless you give it that power." PJ, in response to Brett concerning alcohol cravings in early abstinence. Jeyu0422
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Post by Dana on Aug 26, 2015 9:17:23 GMT -5
Jeyu # 18670.14(14 of 28) Replied to: 18670.13 Jun-14 6:19 AM Jeyu Posts:1039 Brett on RECOVERY: "The basic idea behind the process is actually quite simple. Stop drinking. Heal the mind and body by making healthier choices. Face the reasons behind the behavior. Choose the obvious right choices All simple in theory but difficult in practice.........For me I always found reasons why I couldn't do it. That was addiction doing the talking. The trick is to shut that voice down. It's a loud voice at first but it does grow quieter over time. Like a spoiled child, it screams with rage when it doesn't get its way. Eventually the screams quiet to a whimper, and then it's over." Brett @ 11 and 1/2 months Jeyu0422
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Post by Dana on Aug 26, 2015 9:17:45 GMT -5
PJ # 18670.15(15 of 28) Replied to: 18670.1 Jun-14 6:39 AM PJ Posts:6203
"After all the crap I went through as a result of my drinking there came a time when I understood that when I had a craving it wasn't because I wanted a drink, it was really because I felt uncomfortable and wanted relief from the feeling."
grampadave, March 22, 2012
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Post by Dana on Aug 26, 2015 9:18:14 GMT -5
blueskye # 18670.16(16 of 28) Replied to: Jeyu Jun-14 11:28 AM blueskye Posts:11039
From HappyCamper (Tracy) to Blue a long time ago:
Never kick your own ass; there will always be plenty of folks willing to do it for you!
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