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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2016 7:01:38 GMT -5
Hi Jenn and Kim, Another way to look at it is I wouldn't be what I am today had I not been an alcoholic, I probably wouldn't feel others suffering had I not gone through it myself, I am more sensitive and willing to help others because of my illness, I also appreciate all that I have having seen what others have lost, some everything. A case of the glass half full or half empty. I'd like to think alcoholism has a purpose and it's not all bad. Hang in there Kim, you have a goal of finishing your studies, and as you said won't happen if you continue to drink, make it a motivator to work in your advantage. 49 is still young, and you have the rest of your life to look forward to, sober. Sam Hey Sam, That's a much better way of looking at it. I am a different person now, probably very different and not all in a bad way. Thanks for saying I'm still young, I feel like I've lived a thousand years sometimes. There are others in AA with even sadder stories than mine. I think my course will be the distraction I need. At least I can't complain that I'm bored now lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2016 7:28:54 GMT -5
Kim, I know that you suffer with shame and guilt and that's awful for you. It's all very well for me to say that I'm grateful and wouldn't have it all any other way ... I haven't lost what you have and I feel very sad for you. I believe that you can change a lot of that by doing things that make you feel proud of yourself ... like you're doing now !! If you stick with your plan and remove alcohol as an option under ANY circumstances, your self-love will grow and with that growth, you will be more likely to attract "healthy" relationships, particularly with men. ;-) Good luck in those exams! You can do it !! Sam I totally agree with what you said. You are such a kind-hearted man with a deep soul ... perhaps it takes suffering to enable one to "feel" other's suffering, I don't know. Some folks become hard and embittered, others become sensitive and empathic... a dilemma to be sure. Mark, I'm not understanding the correlation between our ex-poster's "delivery system" and "living a life of gratitude". Do you mean "you have to be cruel to be kind" sort of thing ? You sound well Mark, has your "house full of Aussies" quietened down yet ? Take care All, Jenn Thanks Jenn for the encouragement. I am feeling more self-confident already like I am moving forwards. By the way I passed my exams; only barely in Maths though as I'd forgotten most of my school stuff. I have extra work to do before I start now; not compulsory but recommended. So I'll be busy with that. No alcohol no matter what. I've done sobriety before and can do it again. Thats my motto. Hope that made sense as I'm a bit buggered.
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Post by jeyu0422 on Jan 15, 2016 11:02:37 GMT -5
Kim, Congratulations on passing your test. Now don't look back for a while. There will be ample time for you to do that when you have some sobriety time under your belt. As Brett would say, Onward and Upward! Mark/Jeyu
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Post by jeyu0422 on Jan 15, 2016 11:06:27 GMT -5
Rosemary, How are you doing today? I hope holding on to that commitment. Mark/Jeyu
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2016 16:20:43 GMT -5
Hey Jeyu, Thanks for the advice and the congratulations. Onwards and upwards it is!
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Post by achilles1957 on Jan 15, 2016 19:52:13 GMT -5
Well done Kim, told you that you were clever, you can do whatever you want. Keep up the momentum.. It's so important that we all remember that alcohol destroys not only our bodies ... Ultimately it destroys all that is within.
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So happy for you,
Jenn
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Post by achilles1957 on Jan 15, 2016 20:05:02 GMT -5
"Mark, I'm not understanding the correlation between our ex-poster's "delivery system" and "living a life of gratitude". Do you mean "you have to be cruel to be kind" sort of thing ? You sound well Mark, has your "house full of Aussies" quietened down yet ?" Jenn, "Do you mean "you have to be cruel to be kind" sort of thing" No, not at all. The "delivery system" that I was referring to was not the former poster's, but alcoholism itself. In fact, his delivery, in my opinion, completely obliterated a message that had, in many instances, significant credibility. He did, however, have a saying that I now understand about alcoholism being a "delivery system". I'll look for the quote. Found it..... "I believe that alcoholism is a delivery system into spiritual reality which is the only reality. Therefore, alcoholism is the cure for that of which is purported to be the disease. Alcoholism has a purpose and the purpose is recovery." Whether these were Icon's original words or not, I don't know, but for ME, they were original. Where he failed to communicate his message, again in my opinion, was in his poor delivery. A good message that is never heard is of little value. I saved another quote as well. Found it too...... "Humbleness is a state of mind with no ego, no arrogance, no fight, and without pre-conditions." These are Sam's words at the beginning of a thread he started on the old forum. The unlikely union of these two quotes has guided my sobriety. Mark/Jeyu So glad you cleared that up Mark ... I was a tad concerned, thought perhaps you had gone to the 'dark side', start calling people horrible names etc., I was confused. I too appreciate those two quotes, they meant a lot to me when I first read them and they still do today. You're right, there was so very much to be gained/learned from that poster, such valuable words ... such a shame in so many ways, so much knowledge to share but ... Thanks for for repostig the quotes, I'll copy and paste to a safe place. I hope you and yours are well, Take care, Jenn
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Post by quitat54 on Jan 17, 2016 8:40:29 GMT -5
Hi Rosemary
You came to the right place. To be able to share the pain and be able to open up to someone who understands the shame and helplessness of it all has been of immense help to me. You are not alone, all of us here are in different stages of recovery. Every day without alcohol is a day of freedom. Freedom from slavery, freedom from bondage to an object which in itself has no power, yet we have made it all powerful. Focus on the present and never give up giving up. Every day is precious and while we cannot undo the past, future is just a concept, but the present; this is where the life is happening, not yesterday, not an hour ago not a minute ago, but now. So if you control the now you control your life. All the best to you
J
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Post by fuchsia on Feb 12, 2016 11:28:52 GMT -5
I've called my habits "drinking games." 1. Shuffle the bottles around the fridge or freezer (vodka is my trigger booze--FYI.) even keeping an empty one in there until after trash/recycling day. 2. Drink in a regular glass so visitors think it's water. 3. Have a drink or two before going out to dinner. Pre gaming?
It really sneaked up on me. I somehow got fixated on it a couple of years ago.
I've given up vodka for lent--hopefully for good. 1-2 handles a week is a shame and probably doing a number on my health. I'm tired of the post-binge jitters, mild memory loss, and day-after diarrhea.
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Post by Pam on Feb 12, 2016 17:49:48 GMT -5
Hi Fuchsia. . . Glad you dropped by. . . Take care of yourself and keep posting to let us know how you're doing. PT
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