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Post by robertm on Nov 23, 2016 7:07:53 GMT -5
How about we envision somebody drank on average 1.5-2 bottle of wine a night, 5-6 evenings a week, to what extent before they'd begin turning out badly?
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Post by Pam on Nov 23, 2016 9:27:08 GMT -5
Welcome Robert, I think you may already know the answer. Since you've posted here some aspect of your life (health, job, relationships, etc.) has already been effected by your decision to drink.
If you intend to stop drinking and want support, you're in the right place. If you want to chat about ''what ifs' . . . then, not so much. The forum is not as active as in the past. Perhaps, sober recovery where members read and post a bit more frequently
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Post by robertm on Nov 24, 2016 1:38:48 GMT -5
Much obliged to you, i will look into that forum.
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Post by robertm on Nov 25, 2016 4:11:19 GMT -5
Hope you guys had a nice Thansgiving.
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Post by gwampa69 on Nov 30, 2016 19:59:05 GMT -5
How about we envision somebody drank on average 1.5-2 bottle of wine a night, 5-6 evenings a week, to what extent before they'd begin turning out badly? Hello Robert. My names Brett and its nice to hear from you. This place is super quiet but there are spurts of activity from time to time, usually when someone new shows up. I'm glad you are here.
I'm pretty sure you probably realize that there is no uniform answer to your question. Alcohol and drugs can have a profound (negative) effect on one person almost immediately while others can go for years without any negative effects. Or maybe I should say negative effects that those folks are ready to acknowledge. That's really the key to the whole thing if you ask me. A person has to admit it, face it, and decide whether those effects are due to substance abuse or not. For me, it was declining health, bankruptcy, divorce, self loathing, shame, etc. etc. ad nauseum. I did it all! unfortunately for me, none of those things was singularly enough to stop. I'm a slow study I suppose.
I began asking myself the question you asked when I was 15 years old (I'm 47 now). At that time I was concerned about brain damage. Not concerned enough though. I went on from there and saw the damage I was doing, identified the cause (booze mostly), but kept on cruising along anyway. That's addiction. It makes no sense, it cares nothing for the things in life that really matter, and will kill you if you give it time. For some it takes a long time. For others, not so much. Everyone is different in this regard. One thing most people share though. Once you start asking yourself the question, you've already answered it. Beyond that, its what a person chooses to do with that information/realization.
Of course I'm assuming you are asking the question with regard to your own drinking. I apologize if you were asking about someone else that you care about.
Anyway, there are still a lot of great people that swing by here from time to time. Stick around and open up as much as you are comfortable doing. That's usually what it takes to get a conversation going. I was able to get sober 2.5 years ago by coming here and sharing/receiving. Things are better now than I could have imagined. But it all started with honesty. With myself first. That's not easy for an addict. But its absolutely essential.
Best of luck to you
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Post by yvan on Dec 2, 2016 4:31:42 GMT -5
Hi Robert. Pity the forum is very quiet. I used to post quite a lot and still check in from time to time. Hope you are doing well Kim. As Brett said, there is no uniform answer to your question but if you start questioning yourself about your drinking, you've got already an answer. I knew I was addicted to alcohol but it took me many years to realise that my drinking was the cause of many of my problems until I finally came to the conclusion that I had to stop the insanity before it became worse or maybe too late. I have no doubt that my drinking would have taking me to the the grave earlier. I went to AA, I joined in the forum, I learnt from other alcoholics, I got support here but it's me and only me who decided to stop. Not a drink, no matter what. I got free from my addiction and my life naturally changed for the better. Sobriety has brought me peace of mind instead of delusional feelings I could find in drinking but made my life miserable. Positive changes didn't happen in one day, recovery needs time but to know it from others who succeeded gave me the strength to keep going and believe in a life after alcohol as there's so much in life we can be grateful for, enjoy and give without the need to escape. Hard to believe when you are an alcoholic but you have to give a try to know what sobriety is about. I don't miss anything about being a drunk. When our life becomes miserable because of our drinking, we can stop drinking. No one forces us to keep doing it. As simple as that but it's not. For a long time, I knew I had to stop, I did it without success until I really wanted to. I wanted to be sober more than being a drunk as we used to say here and I made it 3 years ago. I got my freedom back. It's never too late. There is nothing to lose in sobriety but so much to gain. All the best.
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Post by robertm on Dec 3, 2016 0:26:43 GMT -5
Hi Brett and yvan, Thank you for your advice, yes I have accepted myself as an alcoholic and now I am planning on going to AA meeting. I want to stop drinking not only for the benefit of myself. But mainly for my family who has given me the support I need to get through my addiction.
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Post by gwampa69 on Dec 6, 2016 20:16:30 GMT -5
Hi Brett and yvan, Thank you for your advice, yes I have accepted myself as an alcoholic and now I am planning on going to AA meeting. I want to stop drinking not only for the benefit of myself. But mainly for my family who has given me the support I need to get through my addiction. Hi Robert How are you doing? My family was also a big motivator for my decision to stop drinking. I knew all along that my drinking was damaging to them as well as myself. They deserved a better, more complete me. I'm lucky my kids never have up on me. Now I can give them a father they can be proud of. And I can appreciate them for what they are as well. Being sober is good for everyone.
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Post by robertm on Dec 7, 2016 3:29:50 GMT -5
Hi Brett and yvan, Thank you for your advice, yes I have accepted myself as an alcoholic and now I am planning on going to AA meeting. I want to stop drinking not only for the benefit of myself. But mainly for my family who has given me the support I need to get through my addiction. Hi Robert How are you doing? My family was also a big motivator for my decision to stop drinking. I knew all along that my drinking was damaging to them as well as myself. They deserved a better, more complete me. I'm lucky my kids never have up on me. Now I can give them a father they can be proud of. And I can appreciate them for what they are as well. Being sober is good for everyone. Hello Brett, I am doing fine right now. I was able to cut down my drinking habits last month. And now I started going to AA meetings.
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Post by gwampa69 on Dec 7, 2016 6:16:31 GMT -5
Robert That's great to hear. I hope you find a good group that you can relate to. Whatever method you choose, be patient with the process. What part of the world do you live in? I'm in the Great Lakes region of the US.
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Post by robertm on Dec 8, 2016 2:00:46 GMT -5
Brett, I'm from Georgia but now I am having a vacation here in South Korea. It will be a couple of months before I go back.
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